Shhh!

[frualeydis]

My friend anna's birthday was last saturday (which we spent at Kentwell). I had somehow got the idea that it was in september and thought I would have time to make her birthday present before the actual event. Well I didn't, but I've started working on it now. It's a petticoat in burgundy linen with a forepart in dark red brocade sewn to it and a matching pair of tudor sleeves. Then she won't be able to get away from making a Tudor from her silver-grey brocade based on this portrait. She says she can't do it unless she finds some suitable red brocade and even if this brocade doesn't have the same pattern it will look nice. The silver grey brocade has a smaller pattern than the original anyway. But it will look fabulous. Now I just have to do it.

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[myralea.livejournal.com]

say happy birthday to anna from me!

btw, any particular tips on early 14th C hairdo?
just when i finally decided to go with the dürer dress i got a message a few hours ago telling me to do the 14th C... so i've been having a 14thC makeover tonight and have just finished a one-hour-coronet, not perfect and quite uneven but at least white and fully starched (stole your pretty wavy edge idea, supposedly you won't mind ;).
question is now, should it be worn with chinband and hair prettily floating down, or with hair plaited and made into small buns, chinband and veil? unfortunately i cannot find my hairnet.
what would be most appropriate with the dark red dress? if i had had a sleeveless surcout i would have chosen hair down, but since i don't i'm a bit unsure what to do? any advice for a novice in the field?

/m

[frualeydis.livejournal.com]

Hair down is very pretty. The other is too, but since you're not married and it is more unusual in re-enactment groups to show the hair hanging down (because so many women have short hair) I would choose to have it loose. Just to show the variety that existed in the early 14th c.

Eva

thanks!

[myralea.livejournal.com]

was just a bit unsure if hair down was doable also without the typical manesse sleeveless surcote (or whatever it is called...).
should one wear hair down with coronet+chinband+veil, or just the coronet+chinband (showing off the hair ;)

is the sleeveless surcote only for young unmarried girls?

some technical question on sleeveless surcotes:
it seems to me on a couple of the illuminations actually show a bit of gathering/pleating around the center front neckline, a quite wide round goldish-trimmed neckline, and almost no shoulder seam other than the trim. am i totally misstaken?
all recreations i remember seeing i think it has been flat? seemed like yours was too. however, i plan to make one and i kind of like the gathered look...
and can one have checked pattern surcote? or is that totally out of the question?

well, although i'm really more of a 15thC kind of girl, it seems i finally got a reason to upgrade my rather poor 14thC wardrobe into a somewhat more correct fashion ;)

/m
-trying to figure out what pretty colour would brighten up the dark red dress...

Re: thanks!

[frualeydis.livejournal.com]

On eof the thruly interestign thing with the Codex Manesse is that it shows both married and unmarried women with loose hair. There is at least one example of a married woman with just a chinstrap and a coronet (and she doesn't have a surcoat). You also see coronet, chinstrpa and veil pinne don top of the coronet. Although I'm not sure I think that the chinstrap may be a sign of married status, but I haven't looked at it enough.

About the sleeveless surcoat; it seems to be worn by both unmarried and married women. To wear just the cotte seems more common for young unmarried women. At least I think they are unmarried when they only wear a tiny circlet on their loose hair.

Eva

Eva

Re: thanks!

[myralea.livejournal.com]

thanks, your a star!

then i was not to far off this weekend wearing my red dress, unevenly wavy coronet, chin strap and loose hair :)
(unfortunately pictures not in my camera, but in boyfriends, which is in norway for another month...)

/m

[myladyswardrobe.livejournal.com]

Oh dear - wish we had known that. Say happy birthday to her from us all (including the Feathered Duster!).

[frualeydis.livejournal.com]

I was going to tell you, but I forgot.

Eva