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frualeydis ([personal profile] frualeydis) wrote2012-02-10 08:45 pm
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mystery material of the day

An example of gothic/german hand writing from 1603.



The first words are fiolenn bruun (purple, the modern colour, not royal purple), then two mystery words, which (probably) is the material, followed by kiortil (gown).

[identity profile] merastra.livejournal.com 2012-02-11 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Gosh, that's pretty script but I can't decipher half those letters you're seeing. They all look like "n" to me.

[identity profile] operafantomet.livejournal.com 2012-02-11 09:20 am (UTC)(link)
Hahahaha, I totally see what you mean!

The second mystery word.... kalz? Karz?

Yeah. That doesn't really help.

[identity profile] estela-dufrayse.livejournal.com 2012-02-11 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
wow, I am surprized you got that much! Go you!

[identity profile] ragnvaeig.livejournal.com 2012-02-11 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
The second mystery word looks like "kesz", and "sz" = ss therefore "kess", which is used to describe clothing as "jaunty" (according to dict.cc).
Edited 2012-02-11 03:39 (UTC)

[identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com 2012-02-11 08:55 am (UTC)(link)
What is dict cc?
Kess is not a word that is known in early modern or medieval swedish, which is the language in the probate. The general consensus also seem to be (this was the Friday entertainment for many of my fb-friends who read gothic style swedish) that it reads as "katz" (the Z often is a genitiv in Swedish), but it still doesn't make sense, especially since the word before really looks like hundz, but could be huudz too of course.

I will ask a colleague on Monday, because of the peopl,e I knwo hwo work with gothic hand writing work mostly with 18th century, which of course differs from 1603.

/Eva
/Eva

[identity profile] jillwheezul.livejournal.com 2012-02-14 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Is there a Swedish equivalent for rash (Arras) fabric - or sheared rash? But honestly I think I might see Swartz Katz - could it be furred with black cat fur?