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Does any of you know any examples of english (or possibly flemish or french) upper class clothing from c. 1500-1540 in blue that you can direct me to? I don't care what shade of blue, as long as it's blue. Dark green will actually also do. I'm planning to make some tudor clothes for my husband, to match mine and I'm looking for documentation for my preferred colour choices. It doesn't have to be men's clothing since there doesn't seem to be a difference in colour preferences between the sexes.

Date: 2006-02-21 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guyelfkin.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure some of the people in the early tudor tapestries at Haampton Court Palace we saw yesterday are dressed in blue - which might means they were actually blue to begin with or that they were originally green and have faded to blue.

Unfortunately, I didn't take notes so can't give you any specifics....

Teddy

Date: 2006-02-21 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
Well it sounds promosing.

Eva

Date: 2006-02-21 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liadethornegge.livejournal.com
There's a portrait of Maria di Cosimo in a blue dress. If you do a search on it you might find it online. I have saved the image on my own computer but don't know where from.

There's also a couple portraits linked here: http://liadethornegge.livejournal.com/134029.html

Date: 2006-02-21 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
Unfortunately italian or german. I'm going for the western European style, the one you find in England, Flanders and partly in France,not the germanic or the southern. Nice pictures though.

Eva

Date: 2006-02-21 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mynningsflamma.livejournal.com
I e-mailed you what little I have to offer at the moment.. :/

Date: 2006-02-21 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
Thanks.

Eva

Date: 2006-02-21 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
http://gallica.bnf.fr/scripts/mediator.exe?F=C&L=08005801&I=000001


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Date: 2006-02-21 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
Thank you, I had forgotten about this lovely manuscript.

Eva

Date: 2006-02-21 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sorchekyrkby.livejournal.com
Mrs. Pemberton seems to be wearing very dark blue (of course, it could be my monitor...) in this portrait: http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/tudor/pemberton.jpg

This image of the Lady Elizabeth also has possiblities: http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/tudor/janeandeliz.jpg

Of course, there's also Queen Mary's forepart and underleeves... http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/tudor/marybrown.jpg

A Lady with a Squirrel also appears to be wearing dark blue -- check out the contrast between the black edging on her bodice and the bodice fabric itself. http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/tudor/holbsq.jpg

Earlier than the time period specified, but the Magedalene by Roger van der Weyden: http://www.wga.hu/art/w/weyden/rogier/10braque/3braque.jpg

Another van der Weyden: http://www.uvm.edu/%7Ehag/sca/15th/vosp121.jpg

Another Magelene from 1480: http://www.wga.hu/art/m/memling/3mature1/17rein21.jpg

The girl's dress (1502-1508) by Gerard David: http://www.uvm.edu/%7Ehag/sca/15th/ainsworthgdp227.jpg

The donor in the Flemish hood by Gerard David (see the difference in color between her partlet and her gown?) http://www.uvm.edu/%7Ehag/sca/15th/ainsworthgdp75.jpg

Petrus Christus after 1460: http://www.wga.hu/art/c/christus/2/woman.jpg

From teh DeCosta Book of Hours, made in Bruges, around 1515: http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/work/mldacosta03b.jpg

From the same Book of Hours: http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/work/mldacosta5a.jpg

Just a few ideas...


Date: 2006-02-22 07:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
Thank you. I have this damask I plan to dye and I wanted to see if blue would be a period possibility and what kind of blue.

Eva

Date: 2006-02-22 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peronel.livejournal.com
Its not a portrait, but there's a page of sixteenth century wool fragments in the British Library. They're all blue, ranging from very pale to navy, with contemporary descriptions and costs. The dark blues were *very* expensive.

So they were certainly dying cloth blue and selling it for serious money.

Peronel.

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