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With everybody going on about leaving Live Journal, for political reasons, I thought that I'd explain why I'm not leaving - after all I am a very political person, so I "ought" to leave, right?

Reson number one: I am lazy and conservative. I like what I have on LJ, I was so happy when peopel started comign back and post again and I don't want to lose that. LJ was my frist social media and it means a lot to me.

Reason number two is more complicated. First of all: the new user agreement can't really do anything against you, except suspend or take away your account - you know the way Facebook does if you show mum's breastfeeding or art with female nipples. Decisons which can't be appealed. Still we're not leaving facebook.

We're not leaving facebook despite the fact hat while they are punishing people for showin nursing mums, or the chests of breast cancer survivors, or even people who are born with disfigured faces, who are blocked for using a photo of themselves, they do not remove hate speech or direct threats against people. In 2015 a white guy went into a school in Trollhättan my old home town, and started trying to kill people based on their colour of skin. Thanks to the heroic actions by a school assistant, who was, murdered, and thankt to the police, only two people died. Neo-nazis and other racists of course see him as a white hero and started several pages on fb to claim that, and that he was "only defending Sweden agaisnt 'white genocide'" I reported all of these, and so did many others - did we get a result? Where they removed? Hear the hollow echo. Of course they weren't removed, for some reasons racist and neo-nazi propaganda never "violates the community rules" of facebook.
Where am I'm getting with this? Well, if w don't leave facebook for being an important organizational base for neo-nazis and white supremacists, and refusing to do anything about it (the same goes for the networks of pedophiles where fb even reported the BBC journalists who had gathered the facts and wanted fb to take down the pedophile rings), I don't think we can claim some kind of moral high ground when it comes to Live Journal. Not if we're still on facebook. While facebook doesn't use the the word political in their user agreement, and claim that they have no political agenda, only commercial, they are in fact very political - if you refuse to do something about racism and misogyni you are being political. I don't ask anyone to leave fb, or LJ, I definitely think people are prefectly justified in leaving LJ, but I'm not going to.

And this is another of the reasons: I grew up in a time when hating and fearing Russians and Russia was mandatory. And I'm an anarchist at heart, so mandatory doesn't sit well with me. So my gut reaction is to not jump on the anti-Russian bandwagon, even if there may be prefectly valid reasons (and I have protested against their anti-LGBTQ laws, as well as supported Amnesty's work there, so it's not that I don't want to critize them). I have Russian friends and I hate the prejudice and hate they are subjected to daily in Sweden. In the media, and many other places Russians are described as "animals", more brutal than westerners, presumably by their genetics. And all Russians are seen as anti-democratic. It is just not fair. So, I feel that we are holding LJ to a higher standard than other platforms, just because Russia, and Russians are perceived as evil.
The SCA has a group in Moscow, who has visited events in Sweden - I am old enough to think that this is fantastic: that people can travel from Russia to go to hobby gatherings in Sweden. It was not like that when I grew up. But I hear friends complaining about them coming, because, and I quote "It forces us all to censor ourselves when were socializing". When I said that I didn't feel that need, the person explained that: "Well, many of us are in the military and we like to talk about that at events". And I think that that could be easily solved by a) not talking about mundane stuff att medieval events and b)not talking loosely about military stuff, regardless if there are Russians on the site.
SO I will not start seeing everyone of Russian descent or nationality as an enemy, even if I don't like the current leadership.

For me personally the highest risk with remaining is probably that the swedish security police may take an interest in me, old friends who were active in the peace movement have had trouble with that. Scholars who had ties to the peace movement have also been pointed out as Russian agents in the papers and their work has been discredited, but since I study Early Modern clothing, there's little risk that I will be in the centre of such a smear campaign. Right wing journalists have also asked people to report to them if there are university teachers with leftist opinions, and I may be in more trouble there, but I don't think my LJ-blog will be the reason, more that I protest against neo-nazis when they march.

So, these are my feelings, a lot of them non-rational. But most of all I am not leaving because I'm lazy and conservative and like what I have.This may change, but I will wait and see where this goes.

Date: 2017-04-10 11:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] idahoswede.livejournal.com
Well said, Eva. I back up stuff on Dreamwidth, but don't plan on leaving LJ.

Date: 2017-04-10 12:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] therru.livejournal.com
You have some very good points.
I'm seriously considering deleting my LJ, but I get qualms when it comes to actually getting it done.

Date: 2017-04-10 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenthompson.livejournal.com
Thank-you for writing this. I feel the same way about FB - it horrifies and disgusts me, and I can't understand why people ignore all of its faults while screaming about LJ like it is somehow different. I chalk it up to the fact that it's *Russia* and we have been programmed from birth to fear them, but honestly, the whole thing makes me more determined than ever to stay here until it's gone... or they do something to actually warrant all of this hand-wringing. :\

I understand that everybody needs to do what they feel comfortable with, but I'm still really sad about the whole thing, and I wish it wouldn't have come to this. I REALLY didn't want to have to mess with DW, but now I feel like I'm being forced to use it now or else give up contact with some of my dearest friends, and that really sucks.
Edited Date: 2017-04-10 03:15 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-04-11 11:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clothsprogs.livejournal.com
"I REALLY didn't want to have to mess with DW, but now I feel like I'm being forced to use it now or else give up contact with some of my dearest friends, and that really sucks. "

Pretty much the same with me - swathes of my FList are moving to DW, and many of them aren't cross posting and/or are deleting their LJ accounts.

Teddy

Date: 2017-04-10 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sakon76.livejournal.com
I've been fascinated watching which of my friends are leaving LJ and which are not. Uniformly, it's the "fandom" friends (scifi, fantasy, movies, cartoons) who have shifted platforms, while the "costuming" friends remain. I have theories that range from copyright issues to fandom journals being the home of fanfiction that probably goes against Russia's well-publicized anti-LGBT stance. For myself, I will probably back up my journal to Dreamwidth because I have well over a decade of my journal here and would hate to lose it. But I can't see myself deleting my journal the way so many have.

Date: 2017-04-10 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aryanhwy.livejournal.com
I'm migrating because I do not want to censor myself on my blog, and I do not wish to find my blog deleted/inaccessible without having archived it all first, in event that what I post about when I don't censor myself is deemed problematic.

Date: 2017-04-11 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pinkdiamond.livejournal.com
I already have had my lj blocked under the new rules. That said I had a much fairer chance to get it back than anyone I know of who have had issues with facebook. It was back within hours. I still don't know what I did to ding the systemt to tell me I posted inappropriate content So I don't know what to do to avoid it happening again. I also have a bit of a cynical attitude about how no one cared either.

Date: 2017-04-11 07:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrs_maupin
It looks like unless I have an account both on DW and LJ, I'll no longer see what some people are posting, which is making me sad. So I figured, why not use DW as a failsafe. I am still testing things out, though, we'll see how that works.

Date: 2017-04-12 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steelweaver.livejournal.com
I'm really conflicted, especially now that even login isn't encrypted anymore due to Russian law.

I have everything backed up on dreamwidth but there's really no viable alternative that I can see for LJ and it sucks.

Date: 2017-04-12 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
Exactly. I'm backing up at Dreamwidth right now (or rather, I am in queue), but I want what I have, especially since LJ has started to be more active again.

/Eva

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