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I am primarily adressing [livejournal.com profile] myladyswardrobe and [livejournal.com profile] ninya_mikhaila, but I would love help from any of you.
I have some question about what Drea Leed calls the "english transitional hood". I think they are way cool and want to make one for my new dress. The dress is based on Holbein's sketch of the More family, where two of the women wear this kind of hood. He has also drawn it on other sketches. But what I do wonder is if anybody has seen this type of hood in colour (I'm not counting the later copy of the More family portrait, you can't use that as a primary source) since I don't know what kind of material and colours to use.

Date: 2006-01-21 09:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myladyswardrobe.livejournal.com
I've found a copy of the other young lady in that portrait which is coloured. There were a lot of drawings left by Master Holbein and they were in pastel colours. Most reproductions of the drawings are monochrome which is not correct.

Can't find anything else other than this one at the moment. Ninya may well have some effigies with this kind of hood, but I don't know.



Hope it helps.

Date: 2006-01-21 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
Thank you. I didn't even know if it was in the dress fabric or some other coloured or patterned fabric, but this looks like black velvet or silk.

Eva

Date: 2006-01-21 11:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myladyswardrobe.livejournal.com
Looking at this again, I think there are three layers to it.
The first layer is the white bit. Then there is a yellow bit which I think matches the underkirtle which you can see peeking out from the over gown.
Then you have the velvet/silk as the main part of the hood. I also think the yellows trim on the front edge of the black velvet may be the base for a jewelled trim.

Date: 2006-01-21 11:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
I think there's three layers too. The white is probably a wired coif. Maybe even the yellow layer is a whole coif. It would help to give the whole thing structure.


Eva

Date: 2006-01-21 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ninya-mikhaila.livejournal.com
What we now refer to as 'a hood' was usually referred to only by it's componant parts in contemporary accounts. With both English and French hoods a white linen cap or coif formed the (washable and non-slip) foundation. This coif was then partially or entirely covered by the other parts such as frontlet, billaments (upper and nether), lappets (English hood only) and veil. When pinned together they form the full headresses. The colours vary very little, the undercap is always white, the veil always black, frontlets usually black and lappets and billiments limited to black, red, white or gold.

Date: 2006-01-21 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
Thank you.


Eva

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