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Has anyone seen anything even vaguely resembling the enameled ornaments on the tunicella that belongs to the coronation insignia of the Holy Roman Empire?
They don't have to be shaped like the original, round would be fine and the pattern doesn't have to be exact either, just of the same kind. It could be ornaments or buttons, as long as it's possible to sew them. Preferably an on-line shop of course.
Yes. I am finally going to start on the embroidery for Rickard's silk tunicella.

Date: 2006-04-09 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] systemgoddess.livejournal.com
Sorry, I don't have any suggestions. I adore that tunicella. It's what I tried to talk Lee into wearing but he wanted the Norman outfit.
If I run across something I will let you know.

Date: 2006-04-09 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johannaelisabet.livejournal.com
I took a look at Tradera and found these that might be somewhat what you are looking for.

Johanna

Date: 2006-04-09 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
Well, it is Norman probably, from the Normans in Sicily. I won't replicate the embroidery, I'm not that an accomplished embroiderer, and my husband isn't the Holy Roman Emepror anyway. I will keep the pattern, but instead of filling it with little flattened gold tubes, the gold part will be applied from yellow silk. The outer lines will be enhanced with silk cord (I'm making it myself) and the lines inside the pineapples shape will be outlined with fresh water pearls and coral. I have more coral then pearls, and it's documented as used for embroidery on clothing at least from the 13th century. A little late for this, but it's really a question of using what I have.
I won't make the border at the hem, most pictures show borders at the neck and cuffs, not at the hem. I will tablet weave the trim for the neck with silk thread. I will have to order blue though, since we only dyed with cochineal, madder and onion peels when we dyed silk thread last summer.

Date: 2006-04-09 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
Thank you. I will look at their webshop.

Eva

Date: 2006-04-09 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] armillary.livejournal.com
my husband isn't the Holy Roman Emperor

Not even of the North Roman Empire? C'mon ... you know you want to ;)

Date: 2006-04-09 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] therru.livejournal.com
Perhaps something from here?

Date: 2006-04-09 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myralea.livejournal.com
i loved those! so pretty and colourful!

although, from the image link, they looked more like flat champlevé enamels, rather than like those chinese cloisoné enamels at tradera.

oh, they makes me wish i had the possibility to continue my enamelling experiments from last summer... unfortunately i'm not at all up to bronze casting, since modelling or enamelwise they actually seem like quite simple ornaments to acheive.

/m

Date: 2006-04-09 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
Yes, I would very much prefer the flat type. Know of any sources?I'm going to have a look at Knapp-Carlsson tomorrow. Maybe I'll find some suitable buttons.

Eva

Date: 2006-04-09 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myralea.livejournal.com
no, unfortuntaely not :(

what matters most to you? getting hold of any usable enamelled metal decoratio, or achieving the right shape and motif but in a faked material?

for example, if one could get hold of a usuable metal backing, it might not be impossible to make some kind of enamelled decoration with epoxyresins...
a further step into fakedom would be to make even the "metal backings" in epoxyresins, which would enable you to copy the exact forms of the decorations...

/m

Date: 2006-04-10 05:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
The right shape and look, definitely. It's not like I'm going to get any gold enamelled ornaments anyway.

Eva

Date: 2006-04-10 06:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myralea.livejournal.com
well, i'll gladly help you play around with epoxy resins and such stuff if you like to next week. as i'm in town then :)

Date: 2006-04-10 08:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
That would be so wonderful!!!
Let's mail each other about that. [livejournal.com profile] haugtussa is coming on thursday too, to stay over easter.

*bouncing happily*

Eva

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