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This lovely picture is from a french manuscript from the late 13th - early 14th century. It contains several interesting features. One is the fabric "hair bag" worn by the bride. Hair nets with fabric under them can be seen in quite a few manuscripts (unless you assume that the women had bright green, blue or red hair back then ;)and white "hairbags" can be seen in the Maciejowski Bible (c. 1250) but I haven't seen a coloured bag without a net over it before.
The other interesting thing is the buttoned hood worn by the parent standing to the right. It either has a very short shoulder piece or is worn under the cloak, like the Bocksten Bog man wore his. In either case it's a good example of a buttoned hood around 1300. I am making hood for my murrey ensemble, since the inventory I'm using as inspiration had hoods in all the described outfits and a buttoned hood is so much easier to put on over vimple and veil. I am aware that headwear is one of the things that differ most between the sexes in the middle ages, but hoods were so frequently willed from men to women that there hardly can have been a difference in how they looked (before the 15th century).

Oh, and there's a cool man's sleeveless surcoat with a hood.

Date: 2006-05-11 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chigrima.livejournal.com
Ohh, I want a hairbag like that! Will make one soon. Would it work with Codex Manesse clothing? Me thinks the bride's clothing is very similar of that.

...and I really like the kissy-kissy ornamental heads at the bottom. Snake-people love!

Date: 2006-05-11 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
Yes, of course it would work, it's the same style
You do know that quite a lot of Nylöse (http://www.strakt.com/~bjorn/nylose/Bilder/index.html) have been totally enamoured with this period for a couple of years now. If you're into that period and style you really should ask Anna/Ingeborg (http://www.strakt.com/~bjorn/nylose/kontakt.html) to come and give a lecture about it. She's done quite a lot of study on this style, I would definitely consider her an expert.

Eva

Date: 2006-05-14 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chigrima.livejournal.com
Well, since I've moved to Katrineholm since last time we met, I ill have to wait with that lecture. :-) But I will certainly ask her as soon as I meet her!

Date: 2006-05-11 09:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] m-nivalis.livejournal.com
Very nice picture. But what manuscript is it from? And are there more interesting images from it out there?
Costume geek wants to know...

Date: 2006-05-12 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
Unfortunately Margaret Scott does not tell. It's at the Musee Conde Chantilly, that's why assume it's french. I took it from the little book Medieval Clothing and Costume. Displaying Wealth and Class in Medieval Times. It's a 55 pages book in the series The library of the Middle ages.

Eva

Date: 2006-05-11 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tattycat.livejournal.com
the women had bright green, blue or red hair back then ;)

Can you get that colour with vegetable dyes, is the real question ;)

Date: 2006-05-12 09:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clothsprogs.livejournal.com
Button hood!!! Yay!

OK, 100 years earlier than the period I'm interested in, but a man in a button hood nonetheless.

Teedy

Date: 2006-05-12 10:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
There is a buttoned hood on a man on the 15th century paintings from Härkeberga in Sweden. Many of them are on the net, but unfortunately not this one. I will bring the book I found it in with me home today and scan it during the weekend and post it so you can see it.

Eva

Date: 2006-05-12 10:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clothsprogs.livejournal.com
Thankyouthankyouthankyou!

Between them, they bracket the period i'm interested in (late 14thC/very early 15th)

Teddy

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