Arms

Apr. 3rd, 2008 09:36 pm
frualeydis: (effigy stays)
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Having received my AoA I have started thinking of registering arms in the SCA. I can't use my Nordrike arms because they conflict with everything (one reason for this is that SCA heraldry, unlike medieval heraldry, doesn't make distinctions between cinquefoils and roses, so not only do they conflict with all other cinquefoils but also all roses, which is quite a lot of medieval heraldry). But I like my Nordrike arms, not only are they different from most other arms I've seen in Swedish medievalist groups, they are also simple and medieval and carry a special meaning to me. So I wasn't thrilled about finding new arms when we talked about it yesterday evening at Nylöse's monthly meeting ([livejournal.com profile] armillary is herald both for Nylöse and Gotvik, the local SCA shire). We sketched some variations, all based on medieval examples, but I wasn't really excited. Then tonight when I couldn't sleep I got another idea which I hope I will be able to register in some way. It will be cool, and carry even more personal meaning. So I'm crossing my fingers.

Date: 2008-04-03 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmy-me.livejournal.com
not to mention you don't have heraldic jurisdictions in the SCA, so if you conflict with someone, say, in the Shire of Darton you can't have it, despite the fact that your armoury is hardly going to be displayed near each other ever...

oh, when I'm god emperor of the universe...

Date: 2008-04-03 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
Exactly. But I've heard that they at least accept sources written in other languages than english as documentation for names nowadays. Back in the early 90s a swedish memeber was told she couldn't use the perfectly medieval name she used bacause the medieval source was in swedish, which the Powers Who Decide Such Things couldn't read.
I have good documentation for my name though, if they accept medieval sources in swedish, latin and flemish.

/Eva

Date: 2008-04-03 08:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] m-nivalis.livejournal.com
For total conflict I don't mind it so much, but when there's just one little thing that differs... Especially if the owner of that heraldry left SCA ages ago.

Date: 2008-04-03 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] armillary.livejournal.com
Looking ok so far. Do you have any preference for the placement of the cinquefoils? Three of them in a row along the top edge, or separate in each of the three corners of the shield (think Gerdeka's arms) Those were the combinations I could think of offhand, so that's what I looked for.

Also wondering if you have any special requests about the posture of the birdie. The default seems to be facing dexter, sitting with one leg down and one raised, and the wings closed.

Date: 2008-04-04 05:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
Default birdie looks good, but I'm not tied down to any specific position. As for the cinquefoils I would prefer the same placemetn as Gerdeka has.

/Eva

Date: 2008-04-06 11:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rusia-12c.livejournal.com
Offtop: excuse me, please for my initiative. I have translated your article "Du kan ingenting ta med dig när du går Kläder i svenska medeltida testamenten 1200-1420" into russian language from english version, for educational purposes, of course.
The translation is placing at http://www.13c.ru/texts/Sweden_Clothes.pdf
(http://www.13c.ru is russian resource for 13th-century-interesting reenactors)
If you have objection against this, tell me, please.

Date: 2008-04-07 11:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
No problem at all. But I have an english article online that covers much of the same area: Here (http://web.comhem.se/~u31138198/writtentraces.html).

/Eva

Date: 2008-04-07 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rusia-12c.livejournal.com
Thank you, I have read this article.

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