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Having read and re-read Riitta Pylkkänen's article on the 15th century fragments of linen garments from Rauma in Finland (of northern german origin) I've conclusion that they may as well be smocks, as kirtles, as I previously thought. A very shaped smock, but still. of course they could still be kirtles, but in any case it leaves me without certain documentation for linen kirtles worn as middle (or outer, but that's not what I'm looking for) layer in either late 15th or early 16th century Germany, which is annoying since I had a cunning plan involving hand woven linen.
I know that linen outer garments are mentioned in the Tacitum Sanitatis, but that's a bit early and bit far south for my preferences.
I'm, of course, specifically looking in the direction of [livejournal.com profile] mmcnealy, but any references to either texts or preserved garments are very welcome.

Date: 2008-08-14 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmcnealy.livejournal.com
I'd love to see the article from Finland, what language is it in?

Its been a while since I worked on the linen project. I'll dig up my notes and see what I can find.

Date: 2008-08-14 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
German, which is the source to my confusion. It's from "Waffen- und Kostümkunde" 1960 issue 2. It does not help that I have a very bad photocopy of the article, due to the fact that the only library which has the journal in Sweden had a very bad, ancient copy machine when I was there.
And you're a darling.

/Eva

Date: 2008-08-14 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jillwheezul.livejournal.com
I may have a copy of the WKK article but could certainly order a better one to share...

It seems to me that there are references to garments being made out of barchent (linen/cotton fustian).

Date: 2008-08-14 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chargirlgenius.livejournal.com
Even the T.S. doesn't specify that they are outer clothes, they could just be referring to skivvies.

There's a pair of linen joined hose, German I believe, featured in one of the Osprey books. I'm going to poke around for the reference, but maybe that'll help.

Date: 2008-08-14 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jillwheezul.livejournal.com
The linen hosen are from the Alpirsbach finds. There is also a linen doublet from the same time period, but they are all presumed to be boy's clothes as this was a school. They were used as filling material above a walkway along with dirt.

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