18th century porn

[frualeydis]

L'aretin Francais (I can't get the cedille on the c). Printed c. 1800, but as you can see the clothing indicates that the image was made a little earlier. It shows a husband discovering his wife in bed with a lover. There was a much increased output in pornographical engravings in France in the second half of the 18th century.

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[fool000.livejournal.com]

I like it.
My mother has a book with 17th and 18th century porn. Very intresting.

[frualeydis.livejournal.com]

She has? Do you by any chance know the name and author? My next research project (in four years or so) may well be about 18th and 19th cnetury porn so some reading beforehand won't hurt.

/Eva

[fool000.livejournal.com]

Well, I said "My mother has..." but I should have said "My mother used to have..."
I gave it to her for her birthdag about 25 years ago. I bought it in a second hand bookshop.
I don't know if she still has it, or if it's still being published. But I'll ask her.

It may sound a bit strange to give your mother porn for her birthday, but I found that book in a second hand bookstore and I found it very fascinating, and I though my mother would find it fascinating too.

[frualeydis.livejournal.com]

If you find out I'll be very grateful. As for giving your motehr porn I guess it depends a little on how old you are yourself when you do it. I could do it now if I thought she'd like it, but not when I was twenty I think.

/Eva

[fool000.livejournal.com]

I was 19 when I gave this to my mother.

[frualeydis.livejournal.com]

I'm very impressed.

/Eva

[fool000.livejournal.com]

I asked my mom, but she found the book was not on her bookshelf anymore. She can't remember what she did with it.

So I can't give you the title or the name of the author. I do remember it was in dutch, but there were lots of illustrations that were not in dutch.

[operafantomet.livejournal.com]

Charles Eisen did a couple of motifs in the style above. Check also out the erotic novels of Nicolas Chorier.

But of course, it all started with Giulio Romano and Pietro Aretino. The latter made a series of 16 erotic drawings og paintings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Modi ) which were very explisite. The publisher Raimondi made engravings of them and published them, which lead to his arrest, and all known copies destroyed by the Vatican. Raimondi's copies, that is. Romano's originals weren't published. They served as a basis for what Aretino and Raimondi published later; "Sonetti Lussorosi" from 1527. It contained versions of the original "porn" together with 16 erotic sonnets to go with each of them. It was later expanded to 20 illustrations and sonnets. Several copies or versions of them are in the British Museum in London, but I don't know how easy accessible they are. But many has been published in the book "Västerländsk erotisk konst" by Richard Bentley.

I know you're heading for later periods, but much of the erotic illustrations of the 18th century has its basis in the work of Romano/Raimondi/Aretino.

[operafantomet.livejournal.com]

Haha, I just realized the full set of the Romano/Raimondi/Aretino ones (copy) is included in the link I gave above... But unlike the Rococo counterparts, these one seems to be purely heterosexual, with one man and one woman. Might be due to them being a commisioned work, as Giulio Romano was no stranger to ambiguity.

[frualeydis.livejournal.com]

I know about Arieto of course, but didn't have any online sources. Thank you.

/Eva

[operafantomet.livejournal.com]

I wrote:

"But of course, it all started with Giulio Romano and Pietro Aretino. The latter made a series of 16 erotic drawings or paintings"

I did of course mean the FORMER. Giulio Romano made the originals, Aretino the later versions.

And you're quite welcome!

[nehelenia78.livejournal.com]

http://www.amazon.de/Ars-Erotica/dp/3939576018/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1267862314&sr=1-5

There you go! They had this book in my university library, it's a treasure trove of antique pornographic engravings.

[frualeydis.livejournal.com]

Thank you very much.

/Eva