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It's raining and raining and raining. Raining in the winter is normal for Göteborg, but not constantly and this much and what definitely isn't normal is that we haven't had a cold day yet this year. This also not just something I imagine, but a scientifically recorded change. Of course we need longer time to be absolutely certain that specifically Göteborg's climate is changing due to the increased greenhouse effect, but for the world as a whole there is no doubt. And I blame everyone who drives a car while living in a town, especially a SUV, and every company and person who have their little electric christmas candlesticks on even when no-one is there/at home (typical swedish thing).
And myself of course, I consume, I sit by the computer; heck the reason I complain about the rain is that I wanted to walk downtown to get some sewing supplies. But at least I mostly travel by tram and train and try to buy locally produced stuff. And I turn off my telly on the set, not just leave it on stand-by and I unplug my christmas tree at night!

Meh, it's just the weather getting to me. As soon as it stops raining I will be back with a more optimistic and cheerful attitude; deliberately ignoring what's going on with the environment and the world, focusing on my costuming and clothes.
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Date: 2007-12-28 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] therru.livejournal.com
+ things are heating up, people like heat. Lots of norther europeans flee to southern lattitudes to get through the winter, and even during summer they do so. Now they can enjoy higher temperatures at home. Less fossile fuel burnt up from all those trips saved.

Actually, what I dislike most is the rainy, damp and windy weather. And do you really think that people who are used to travelling abroad for their holidays are going to stop, just because the winters have become warmer and rainier?

+ fewer trafic deaths due to slippery roads, fewer elderly people who die due to complications after breaking their hip while slipping on icy sidewalks.

Actually, it's when the weather is damp and the temperature vacillates around zero that you get the worst iciness and slippery roads. If there is snow and real cold, the roads don't get very slippery. So we are going to get *more* motor accidents and old people breaking their neck-of-the-femurs, not less.

But you are right, we should just wait for 200 years without doing anything so that we can know for *certain* that what we were experiencing was global warming, whether on top of a naturally warm period or not. Too bad it may be far too late to do anything about the Earth by then.

Date: 2007-12-28 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
Sarcastic, are we? ;)
Thanks for sympathizing.

/Eva

Date: 2007-12-28 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] therru.livejournal.com
Sarcastic, are we? ;)

Oops, sorry about that...
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Date: 2007-12-29 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] therru.livejournal.com
I don't have access to your scientific research, but it looks to me as if you are suggesting that the state of the Earth is directly connected to the state of my personal mental health. Do you mean to say that if I just cheer up and become a carefree, happy-go-lucky little thing, the environment will be fine?
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Date: 2007-12-29 10:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] therru.livejournal.com
So you think that anything we do to the environment will be OK, just because there is a natural climate instability as well? To me, that sounds as if we should be even more careful of what we do to it. And I don't really buy the argument that natural disasters happen to the Earth all the time, so if the disaster happens to be us, we should just smile and relax, since we originated on the planet. That's like saying "I can thrash this garden if I want, because I used to play in it when I was a kid." Or: "It's God's will that kids die of cancer, just be happy about it".

There is also a huge difference between being "desperate" and being worried and thinking we should care about what kind of world we leave behind us. You do sound pretty patronising a lot of the time, you know.

the End of the World is Neigh!

Surely that is only true if you are a horse.

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Date: 2007-12-30 11:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] therru.livejournal.com
And this comment doesn't strike you as the least bit patronising?
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Date: 2007-12-30 01:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] therru.livejournal.com
Then there are definitely things I need to discuss with you, but this is not the right place or way to do that, and I apologize to [livejournal.com profile] frualeydis for letting this exchange go this far in her journal.

Date: 2007-12-30 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frualeydis.livejournal.com
Oh, I've been avoiding it, because I'm conflict-shy and I do not have the energy to deal with this now anyway. But I still like you both, just so that you know.

/Eva

Date: 2007-12-30 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] therru.livejournal.com
Thank you. And again, I'm sorry.

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